1 00:00:18,050 --> 00:00:24,600 my name's Nick Pope formerly with the 2 00:00:21,118 --> 00:00:27,198 British Ministry of Defense since 1950 3 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:30,599 the British government has received over 4 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:32,700 10,000 UFO reports now responsibility 5 00:00:30,599 --> 00:00:35,100 for this subject rests with the Ministry 6 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:37,620 of Defence whose remit is to look for 7 00:00:35,100 --> 00:00:40,289 evidence of any potential threat to the 8 00:00:37,619 --> 00:00:43,709 United Kingdom or anything else of any 9 00:00:40,289 --> 00:00:46,530 defense significance from 1991 through 10 00:00:43,710 --> 00:00:48,829 to 1994 I was the desk officer 11 00:00:46,530 --> 00:00:52,250 responsible for these investigations 12 00:00:48,829 --> 00:00:54,090 most UFO sightings turned out to be 13 00:00:52,250 --> 00:00:56,730 misidentifications of things such as 14 00:00:54,090 --> 00:01:00,329 aircraft satellites and meteors 15 00:00:56,729 --> 00:01:02,759 but in around 5% of cases no explanation 16 00:01:00,329 --> 00:01:05,460 could be found and these cases included 17 00:01:02,759 --> 00:01:08,069 incidents where reliable witnesses such 18 00:01:05,459 --> 00:01:10,829 as police officers and pilots reported 19 00:01:08,069 --> 00:01:13,319 structured craft performing speeds and 20 00:01:10,829 --> 00:01:15,179 maneuvers significantly in excess of 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,908 anything that they'd seen military jet 22 00:01:15,180 --> 00:01:21,000 aircraft perform other cases including 23 00:01:17,909 --> 00:01:23,969 in this category involved UFOs tracked 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,728 on radar and incidents where photos or 25 00:01:23,969 --> 00:01:29,640 videos were produced and where the mo DS 26 00:01:26,728 --> 00:01:33,539 technical experts found no evidence of 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:35,879 any faking the mo D actually takes no 28 00:01:33,540 --> 00:01:37,860 position on the nature of the UFO 29 00:01:35,879 --> 00:01:40,289 phenomenon but I and some of my 30 00:01:37,859 --> 00:01:42,840 colleagues became privately convinced 31 00:01:40,290 --> 00:01:45,719 that whatever was was going on there 32 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:49,439 were serious defence national security 33 00:01:45,719 --> 00:01:53,280 and flight safety issues involved in 34 00:01:49,438 --> 00:01:55,368 March 1993 I investigated a case where a 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,780 UFO was seen by about 60 witnesses 36 00:01:55,368 --> 00:02:01,290 including military personnel at two air 37 00:01:57,780 --> 00:02:04,290 force bases witnesses included a patrol 38 00:02:01,290 --> 00:02:07,560 of Air Force police and a meteorological 39 00:02:04,290 --> 00:02:10,319 officer with eight years experience now 40 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:12,560 this latter witness described a 41 00:02:10,318 --> 00:02:16,669 triangular-shaped craft 42 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:20,390 moving in an erratic way it was midway 43 00:02:16,669 --> 00:02:23,899 in size between a c-130 a transport 44 00:02:20,389 --> 00:02:26,029 aircraft and a Boeing 747 he said it was 45 00:02:23,900 --> 00:02:28,219 emitting a low-frequency humming sound 46 00:02:26,030 --> 00:02:30,769 and he said it moved slowly at first 47 00:02:28,219 --> 00:02:34,098 before accelerating away to the horizon 48 00:02:30,769 --> 00:02:36,200 many times faster than a military jet my 49 00:02:34,098 --> 00:02:37,780 head of divisions briefed to the 50 00:02:36,199 --> 00:02:41,149 assistant chief of the air staff 51 00:02:37,780 --> 00:02:42,739 concluded quote in summary there would 52 00:02:41,150 --> 00:02:45,349 seem to be some evidence on this 53 00:02:42,739 --> 00:02:48,140 occasion that an unidentified object or 54 00:02:45,349 --> 00:02:51,169 objects of unknown origin was operating 55 00:02:48,139 --> 00:02:53,988 over the UK unquote the case file 56 00:02:51,169 --> 00:02:56,298 published on the mo DS website also 57 00:02:53,989 --> 00:02:59,539 mentions related inquiries from the US 58 00:02:56,299 --> 00:03:01,819 authorities asking if the UK had a black 59 00:02:59,539 --> 00:03:04,009 program that might explain some UFO 60 00:03:01,818 --> 00:03:06,169 sightings involving large triangular 61 00:03:04,009 --> 00:03:08,750 shaped craft now that's interesting 62 00:03:06,169 --> 00:03:10,729 given the US government's public 63 00:03:08,750 --> 00:03:14,150 position that UFOs are no longer 64 00:03:10,729 --> 00:03:16,879 investigated Britain's best-known UFO 65 00:03:14,150 --> 00:03:18,980 sighting occurred in 1980 and involved 66 00:03:16,879 --> 00:03:22,519 United States Air Force personnel from 67 00:03:18,979 --> 00:03:25,069 two military bases in the UK they were 68 00:03:22,519 --> 00:03:26,390 multiple witnesses and an object was 69 00:03:25,069 --> 00:03:29,239 seen to land in a place called 70 00:03:26,389 --> 00:03:31,669 Rendlesham forest a geiger counter was 71 00:03:29,239 --> 00:03:33,849 used to take radiation readings at the 72 00:03:31,669 --> 00:03:36,439 landing site and the assessment 73 00:03:33,849 --> 00:03:38,629 undertaken by the mo DS Defense 74 00:03:36,439 --> 00:03:40,599 Intelligence staff stated that the 75 00:03:38,629 --> 00:03:42,799 levels recorded seemed quote 76 00:03:40,599 --> 00:03:46,250 significantly higher than the average 77 00:03:42,799 --> 00:03:47,689 background unquote we're fortunate to 78 00:03:46,250 --> 00:03:49,639 have two of the witnesses to these 79 00:03:47,689 --> 00:03:51,620 events here today and I'd like to hand 80 00:03:49,639 --> 00:03:54,969 over to one of them now so he can give 81 00:03:51,620 --> 00:03:54,969 you some specifics thank you